Cardinal Dolan Stands Up on The O’Reilly Factor
Posted by Matt Yonke (March 29, 2012 at 5:06 pm)
It was great to see Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Archbishop of New York, appear on The O’Reilly Factor last night.
Bill had some great questions and the Cardinal was able to speak out about the place of religion in public life. O’Reilly asked if the bishops wanted to be a force in political life, to which Dolan deftly answered, “No, I want my people to be a force in public life!”, rightly placing the locus of activity with the laity.
Later in the interview, Dolan said:
. . . to see that morally driven, religiously convicted people want to exercise their political responsibility, I think that’s at the heart not just of biblical religion, it’s at the heart of the American enterprise.
The Cardinal is precisely right that religious expression in the public square is key to what has made this country great.
Especially after his letter of support for the New York Rally, we can’t say enough thanks to the Cardinal for all his brave work in standing up for religious freedom!
YAY equal rights for religon so long as its not jewdeism islamic or anything other than christian!! how can you ask for freedom when you dont give any to gays, jews,woman or anything else??? if you think im judging unfairly, please tell me, i am an atheist, and always will be one, so don’t try to convert, me, also if i am being to mean, i hope i didnt offend anyone but i mean… COME OONNN
March 29th, 2012 at 6:18 pm
Thank You
March 29th, 2012 at 6:52 pm
On the contrary, “J”, (too bad you don’t use your whole name like I do), the idea of equality is a wholly Christian ideal. Before Christianity, the idea of equality for anyone was unheard of and Jesus was well known for breaking taboos about treating women equally in a time when this was just not done. I guess you never heard of the woman at the well? And this teaching by St Paul caused quite a scandal at the time, now included in scripture: Galatians 3:28-“[28] There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” Hmmm, I can’t figure out where you got the idea that we are discriminatory against anyone except for maybe our intolerance of sin.
March 29th, 2012 at 8:49 pm
Mrs.Teresea,
You’re final statement kind of supports the allegation that christian’s are biased and prejudiced. The idea of religious freedom is that all can practice what the wish without fear of ridicule. Ridicule also being someone saying that they are sinning. Sin is a concept only relevant to christians. I believe in God, and Christ, but I would never push anything on another. We must have intolerance only for sin within our own lives. We can not save others, not even with out pamphlets, and preaching. Only they themselves and God can save them.
March 30th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
Terese Rachor Beste: well, aren’t you a good “christian woman” however according to the bible you as a woman cannot teach me as said here “women should wear modest apparel and should not teach men, 1 Timothy 2:9-15″n sexist enough for you? Genesis 3:16. In accordance with God’s command, fundamentalist sects forbid painkillers during childbirth. and you still don’t fell under appreciated? “A woman who becomes pregnant and gives birth to a son will be ceremonially unclean for seven days, just as she is unclean during her monthly period. On the eighth day the boy is to be circumcised. Then the woman must wait thirty-three days to be purified from her bleeding. She must not touch anything sacred or go to the sanctuary until the days of her purification are over. If she gives birth to a daughter, for two weeks the woman will be unclean, as during her period. Then she must wait sixty-six days to be purified from her bleeding. These are the regulations for the woman who gives birth to a boy or a girl. She is to bring two doves or two pigeons, one for a burnt offering and the other for a sin offering. In this way the priest will make atonement for her, and she will be clean.” Leviticus 12: 1-8 b4 you start biching and moning about your lack of “freedom” how bout you give it to woman?????
March 30th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
so therefor according to this bible, you cannot teach me so i think your god would agree with me
March 30th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
It is said to instruct the ignorant…. If the shoe fits put it on by all means……and yes, people can be saved of their sins by another suffering for them….some have this gift…many saints did. Read a little deeper in the Bible and try to understand this…
March 31st, 2012 at 1:14 pm
As Catholics we are about the only Christian religion that does not shove our views down your throats. We practice what we do because it is our belief. We do not infringe on anyone. Why should I have the gay, atheist, abortionist, and birth control issues shoved down mine? Why should I pay for birth control because people use sex for entertainment? Why should I be nothing other than loving and tolerant to a gay’ knowing they are an abomination in God’s eyes…..why should not be tolerant and loving to an atheist? I am tolerant. 8 just do not like your sins and will not tolerate them. Only will I pray for you that commit such atrocities….so…. When push comes to shove…. I as a Catholic will start pushing hard against those who infringe upon my beliefs, trying to take away that which is not theirs to take… Well, it is said in the bible that these days would come.. St. Michael protect us…
March 31st, 2012 at 1:25 pm
Hey why do you atheists, gays and such why don’t ya all go to a spot in the world where the rest of us do not have to listen to ya whine…. It gets so old. First it was the blacks complaining about whitey and mymfamilymwas not even here yet. Should I pay for them? My people were slaves too. Now it is the gays. god forbid ya say anything about them and we must condone their sick practices. Let us not forget the atheists who can never really make a solid stand because they have no legs to stand on…ok, and the people using sex as recreation. Who else wants to whine for crying out loud….I am sooooo sick of all of you….just live and let live. Leave everyone alone of crying ou
loud already.. A better place has to be for some as the Lord knows we are sick of all the whiners and those trying to justify themselves. Go jump in a lake..
March 31st, 2012 at 1:34 pm
Please, J’, Collen, and Nora. None of you even have a clue. But you will pretty soon. The Illumination will be coming upon us shortly…. Boy we are in serious trouble… Always, I try never to offend… Something we are not supposed to do, only live how the Lord told us too. None of you people are doing this….why???? If u lived in another country they would kill u for your beliefs. Americans are so spoiled and do not get it for sure…..it never fails to surprise me….appreciate what you have and are and shut the heck up.
March 31st, 2012 at 1:45 pm
Chris Dolan was an idiot here. This is about Religious freedom, period. And we as Catholics do not want to have to pay for someone else’s birth control or abortions, period.
March 31st, 2012 at 1:49 pm
Hmmmmmm… What did our Lord preach that most of you do not have nor understand……HUMILITY….we are just all too prideful here….Pride should be gotten rid of…..all pride…..gay pride, pride in all individuals……
March 31st, 2012 at 1:51 pm
My comment in #11, was not about Cardinal Nolan it was about the Gentleman who was being interviewed and weighing in on this issue with the Fox News Anchor and Monica Crowley. I believe his name was Chris Dolan. I was on the wrong page commenting.
March 31st, 2012 at 2:01 pm
My comment in #11, was not about Cardinal Dolan it was about the Gentleman who was being interviewed and weighing in on this issue with the Fox News Anchor and Monica Crowley. I believe his name was Chris Dolan. I was on the wrong page commenting.
March 31st, 2012 at 2:02 pm
I like this cardinal, I think he is great. I really enjoyed this interview.
March 31st, 2012 at 2:22 pm
Comment to J here. Stop talking about Catholicism when you don’t know anything about it.
March 31st, 2012 at 2:25 pm
lol you guys keep saying things like “i dont know anything about catholism” or ” i have no legs to stand on as an atheist, i have proof that god doesnt exist, i could point it out just like a silly fiction book and poke all the flaws in your bible and show how it was just written by a bunch of high men with too much time on their hands, but it doesnt matter because your faith blinds you and it always will blind you. i can show you how you have sinned dozens of times in your life without realizing it. you will never listen to reason so why sould i even bother???
March 31st, 2012 at 11:15 pm
as red said “As Catholics we are about the only Christian religion that does not shove our views down your throats.”
i do hope that that is a joke. catholics shove your views down our throats the most!!!!!! have you ever been to this website??? it is the worst page i have ever seen in my life it is filled with cruel blind homophobes, http://godhatesfags.com/
you may have to copy the link,
you people…
March 31st, 2012 at 11:20 pm
J saud:
catholics shove your views down our throats the most!!!!!! have you ever been to this website??? it is the worst page i have ever seen in my life it is filled with cruel blind homophobes, http://godhatesfags.com/
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J, I think you don’t understand sectarianism. Allow me to fill you in. The Westboro Baptist Church is not Catholic. In fact, other Baptist churches, being automomous, have distanced themselves from Westboro.
J, if you want to talk about Catholicism, please do. Mixing us up with Baptists who hate homosexuals is about as ignorant as mixing us up with homosexuals who hate Catholics.
And I hope you take a few lessons in spelling next time you post. It is embarrassing reading a message from someone tell us how bad we are and how ignorant, and not know anything about grammar, syntax or spelling.
It doesn’t help your cause, J, to look a lot more ignorant than you accuse us of being.
Just so you can put it in your pipe and smoke it, J, the Catholic Church invented universities in Europe. The popes sponsored and supported them. The four areas of study that earned degrees as medicine, philosophy, theology and law. America got the idea for learning from the schools begun and paid for by the Catholic Church.
Now, if you want to discuss transubstantiation, the Incarnation, theodicy or Apostolic Succession, please do.
To base your notion of Catholic teaching on the social issues of the day displaying tunnel vision. Society changes, the morality of Christ faithfully taught by His Church does not change.
As will become evident during the rest of this century when it becomes apparent how homosexuality/lesbianism cannot exist as viable lifestyles. This is simply the latest of society’s attacks on the basic family unit begun by destroying Black and Hispanic households through welfare disqualifications of husbands living in the home.
The US bishops of the Catholic Church in the US has been in bed too long with the Democratic party. It is refreshing to see that President Obama hates Catholics so much that he is willing to lose the 54% he received in his first election.
With the bishops against him and his party for their blatant and disgusting immorality, Obama will have to prey on the ethnics much more than he did before.
April 2nd, 2012 at 3:09 am
Thanks be to God and his only Son, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Thank you, Cardinal Dolan, for continuing to have the COURAGE to stand up in the public arena, in the face of great opposition, to support our First Amendment and Constitutional rights. Make no mistake about it, the battle has JUST BEGUN!
As a Christian who just happens to be Catholic and a mother, it saddens me to see all this hateful arguing going on among the people of this great nation. PLEASE, we ALL are need to set aside our personal and egotistical opinions and do what is RIGHT for the future of our country AND the futures of our children. We are all created equal under God and under the law of our land.
If you don’t like something that is happening in our country, then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT that is CONSTRUCTIVE, I beg of you. Your belief system does not matter to me–Catholic or Jew, Muslim or Atheist–because no matter what your belief system is, you still have a CONSCIENCE. And you have to live with yourself.
We are ALL CITIZENS of this country and if the SILENT MAJORITY does not start doing something constructive to drastically change the future course of our government, which has no moral compass or conscience, then who is to be blame? Nobody but ourselves, “WE THE PEOPLE…”
And I happen to believe that we are all BETTER THAN THAT, that our CHILDREN DESERVE BETTER THAN THAT.
Thank you for keeping an open mind and heart and JUST DO IT! DEFEND YOUR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM before it is TOO LATE!
April 2nd, 2012 at 11:49 am
Thanks be to God and his only Son, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Thank you, Cardinal Dolan, for continuing to have the COURAGE to stand up in the public arena, in the face of great opposition, to support our First Amendment and Constitutional rights. Make no mistake about it, the battle has JUST BEGUN!
As a Christian who just happens to be Catholic and a mother, it saddens me to see all this hateful arguing going on among the people of this great nation. PLEASE, we ALL need to set aside our personal and egotistical opinions and do what is RIGHT for the future of our country AND the futures of our children. We are all created equal under God and under the law of our land.
If you don’t like something that is happening in our country, then DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT that is CONSTRUCTIVE, I beg of you. Your belief system does not matter to me–Catholic or Jew, Muslim or Atheist–because no matter what your belief system is, you still have a CONSCIENCE. And you have to live with yourself.
We are ALL CITIZENS of this country and if the SILENT MAJORITY does not start doing something constructive to drastically change the future course of our government, which has no moral compass or conscience, then who is to be blame? Nobody but ourselves, “WE THE PEOPLE…”
And I happen to believe that we are all BETTER THAN THAT, that our CHILDREN DESERVE BETTER THAN THAT.
Thank you for keeping an open mind and heart and JUST DO IT! DEFEND YOUR RELIGIOUS FREEDOM before it is TOO LATE!
April 2nd, 2012 at 11:53 am
sean said”As will become evident during the rest of this century when it becomes apparent how homosexuality/lesbianism cannot exist as viable lifestyles.” that my freind, is wrong,over 53% of people support gay marrige, and those that dont will be turned soon, people are allowed to love whoever they love, in 50 years, our children (adopted or not) will look back and say ” why didnt people give gays equal rights? thats like not giving someone rights because of their skin color!” there is no way of avoiding, gay marrige will become more supported, as religon dies out more and more these days kids are pretending to be religous around their parents while really being a atheist. we as a people, not religous people, not black, white asian or any other ethnicity individually, all have the right to love, a right that will not remain un given. there will be no more blankets covering the eyes of the next generation, ignorance/ homophobia is not/will never be again the norm.
April 2nd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
As a Catholic, and more generally a Christian, I’m finding that the more I care about and get involved with events and programs that are deeply spiritual – such as the rally – the more I suffer. It was an amazing realization. I better understand now why so many people stay insulated and self-absorbed. It’s easier. But, oh, what a mistake. Suffering – and joy – is what happens when we truly follow our Lord, Jesus Christ. As Red says it’s been fortold these days would come. But it also says those who are faithful will be victorious. I feel sorry for those like J who seem so desperate to show how enlightened they are without God. I for one will keep fighting for religious freedom and the rights of unborn children, no matter how much suffering is involved. And I will never apologize for it. Not to selfish mothers who put convenience and comfort over the lives of their unborn children. Not to the multitude who claim to be “offended” because I do not support gay marriage. And contrary to what J wants to believe, there are quite of few of us – *GASP!* – Christians, and more coming along behind us. My Friends in Christ, keep the faith. We already know how the story ends!
April 4th, 2012 at 12:16 pm
J- I don’t care if 53% of people want to call a chair a table, its still a chair! Anatomy shows that two from the same sex don’t “fit.” Have you ever worked a puzzle before its pretty simple. We call this “natural law.” Not that complicated.
April 4th, 2012 at 2:38 pm
catholic trooper, first off isnt your name a contradiction? and if you want to talk natural ill talk natrual, natural law says that you cant use a computer cause its not natural well guess what dipshit, homosexuality is found in over 700 species, homophobia is only found in one, which one is unatural now???
April 4th, 2012 at 9:29 pm
and i have a message to everyone who has ever used this site, can you even PROVE the existence of god??? and no, sara, as cultures mix religion is sinking and atheism or what i call COMMON SENSE is growing, gay marriage is and will be legalized, give up, there is no god. in addition are you aware cutting your hair is a sin? wearing mixed cloth??? guess what, your “jesus” was the son of Mary who just didnt wanna get caught being a whore so she lied and claimed her son the son of god. as Jesus grew up and became more of a pothead, as did the writers of the bible. and shockingly GASP! magic isn’t real and no one can be immortal so how can god exist with no body and no conncouns mind
April 4th, 2012 at 9:35 pm
Actually my name isn’t a contradiction because I am apart of the Church militant not a part of the Church Triumphant yet (in heaven). This is an age old expression.
I see you confuse natural law with being a naturalist, by our examples. As Catholics we believe that God gave us our minds and intellect to aid us in life. Things like medicine and computers are perfectly fine. Here are some good links about natural law.
This link is from Thomas Aquinas, respected by even secularists, on natural law:
http://www.newadvent.org/summa/2094.htm
This link is a very through look at Natural Law, in the traditional sense, and breaks it down:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09076a.htm
April 4th, 2012 at 10:32 pm
J- I’m not sure if you mean to but, you sound like a very angry individual. I would still like to address some of your questions though, as they are viewed so widely.
The statement of proving that God exists is irrelevant for the most part, but not because it doesn’t matter. To prove something would mean it is in the realm of our grasping and range of analysis, like something we can put under a microscope. God isn’t someone or thing that you can do a biopsy on to learn about. This frustrates the “scientific theory” world that we live in, because we have grown so dependent on this singular principle alone.
Also, if I were not a believer, I would be hard pressed to believe that a Being that is holding all things in existence every second and created everything would be so easy to “see” or prove tangibly, because of the sheer vastness of this Being.
As someone that uses the internet and free able to read and observe the articles of these types of sites we really only ask that you have an open mind that that which science hasn’t/or will never be able to see or acknowledge. There is no crime in investigating and/or believing in something that has not been empirically proven.
April 4th, 2012 at 10:54 pm
with all due respect, that si what every religous person says, it si impossible to prove his existence, well it is possible to prove his nonexistence due to the sheer number of laws of life that he breaks, no organism is immortal, all organisms must be made of cells, in addition he breaks the “law of common sense” no one can perform magic and create a planet.
April 6th, 2012 at 12:21 pm
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